*headdesk*

Thu, Oct. 11th, 2007 03:13 pm
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Fandom, why so stupid? (link goes to [livejournal.com profile] chopchica's handy link round up to good posts discussing the stupid occurring, not to the stupid itself, which is on f_w by and large)

In other words...

Q: This event is specific to a majority and makes the minority feel excluded.

BAD way to disagree:
A: You are wrong! Also, it's not specific to the majority! Also, you are too sensitive and there is no anti-semitism here! You Jewish people are all so touchy! And you're oppressing me by making me remember all these weird, unfamiliar holidays! Neener!

GOOD way to disagree:
A: Ohhh. Hrm. Hello there, my privilege. I will acknowledge you and note that you exist. Maybe I do not agree with everything in the original note or the solution, but I see where it's coming from and acknowledge that you may have a very different perspective on this from me because my perspective is privileged and I get to ignore a lot of stuff.

ETA: Just to clarify, my problem isn't with Yuletide or the Yuletide organizers, but rather with the responses on f_w and in the comments of many posts. I particularly like [livejournal.com profile] untrue_accounts' post detailing the issues and heartily agree with her.

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Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 03:41 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] chopchica.livejournal.com
Agreed. I think her initial post and complaint was silly in the extreme. But did it really justify that level of anti-Semitism she (and by extension we) all got in response?

FW should've been mocking deb because she was *silly*. Instead, she got mocked because she was *Jewish*, and there's something horribly wrong about that.

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Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 07:32 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com
Oh totally. Like with the previous racism discussions, it becomes obvious there's some skeevy stuff under the surface just waiting for an opportunity to bubble up. :(

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