Angel 5x08 Destiny again

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Squeee!!!

Ok. Am done now.

But seriously, I kept thinking Eve was getting naked and she was going to be Lilah underneath somehow! Then I thought she was going to crawl into bed with Lilah (Lilith and Eve sleeping together has a good sort of resonance for me). Someone (shadowkat67?) had a good point about Lindsey always being associated with the Shanshu prophecy, and now that's he's turned up, it's also finally become the center attention for the first time in forever.

I so thought Spike was going to turn human. I still think he might (see my post-Chosen post).

So awesome being a long-time viewer! Many past episode references -- the entire thing with Buffy, Spike coming up from behind Angel to whack him with a giant metal rod, of course all the flashback eps, the tension in S2 in the triangle of Angel-Spike-Dru, the Yoda thing. Also, Gunn going mad and strangling Eve and Fred clocking him with a fire extinguisher: Billy. I kind of wish Wes had been there to see what he would have done. I didn't catch that Sirk was the guy Lilah picked as Wes' guide in Home, but another cool little detail. More prophecy mistranslation, more Angel distrusting prophecy and destiny. Spike, the grand screwer-upper of destiny. The "toner" in blood reminded me of Conversations with Dead People.

I shivered when each vamp pulled the most painful thing he could say about Buffy out. Somehow, I think Buffy would kick the crap out of both of them for that.

I really liked the Gunn and Spike vibe. Wonder if all that unseen bonding was in the bathroom?

Eve needs to die. Preferrably as a sacrifice to the higher powers who are hopefully manipulating her and Lindsey. If not, she needs to stop expositioning. Generally, I save yelling at the TV screen to Alias, but the boy's roommate must have thought I was nuts, because every two seconds: "Shut UP, Eve!"

I also liked really small things, like how Dru was wearing the same lacy gloves she wore in LMPTM.

I wonder if Angel is thinking in the back of his head that Wes mistranslated the Shanshu prophecy and somehow betrayed him again without meaning to. Guh.

I need to get Eve/Lilah out of my head. Really.

Apparently, this post isn't more coherent by much at all!

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Hah!

[anneth.livejournal.com]

Eve needs to die. Preferrably as a sacrifice to the higher powers who are hopefully manipulating her and Lindsey. If not, she needs to stop expositioning. Generally, I save yelling at the TV screen to Alias, but the boy's roommate must have thought I was nuts, because every two seconds: "Shut UP, Eve!"

I so agree! Spaceman and I always end up talking through her lines because we're so annoyed by her. Or, really, I'm annoyed by her and like to complain about her when she's on-screen. Plus, I'm still trying to get past my conviction that the role was written for and should have been played by SR, a conviction that means I end up pretending all of Eve's scenes were actually played by SR, which ends up confusing me when I think back on the episodes.

Sigh.

Anyway, I'll see your squee! and raise you an eeee! Lindsey!

Re: Hah!

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Anyway, I'll see your squee! and raise you an eeee!

Lindsey! Whoohoo!

Re: Hah!

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Tattooed Lindsey!!

It had to be Eve

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I don't like Eve either. "All dressed up in big sister's clothes"--she ain't Lilah.

But when she crawled in bed with Lindsey, I knew that was something Lilah would never, ever do (even if she was trying to manipulate Lindsey, she wouldn't do it, because she'd know Lindsey would see right through her).

It will be fun seeing what Eve and Lindsey have brewing together, and how together they really are on this (versus having their own agendas each isn't telling the other).

Re: It had to be Eve

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Oh yeah... that last scene made Eve a thousand times more interesting.

Now I want to know if Lilah is backstage somewhere plotting against Lindsey and Eve as well.

Re: It had to be Eve

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

You weren't the only one who (a) thought Eve would turn into Lilah during that scene in the apt where she's taking off her clothes (it reminded me of that scene in Cocoon 2 where the boat captain watches alien girl take off her clothes, then her skin) or (b) get into bed with Lilah (although I thought that was just my dirty mind).

It's the whole set up of... who is she talking to? What is it about Eve that we don't know?

Thank God they did something interesting with her.

Re: It had to be Eve

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I think subconsciously it makes sense though -- they've got Eve saying a lot of lines that sound more like Lilah, they've got the attempted sexual chemistry with Angel, and then, in this episode, she gets nearly strangled by Gunn (as opposed to Lilah and Angel)... so some weird parallelism was going on in my head or something, which naturally lead to Eve having sex with Lilah ;). Plus, the cool not-quite-twin Mulholland Dr. thing too.

Thank god she's doing something instead of just being exposition girl. Because with that name, it just would have been silly to leave her in the background.

Wow this episode makes me happy.

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I know! Lindsey! Hee. I wonder if all the new fans are confused as hell.

And grrrrr! Eve might not have been so grating about the exposition if she would just stop being so cute about it... ugh, puts my teeth on the edge just thinking about it.