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I first heard about this when it won a special prize from the Japanese Sense of Gender award (awards SFF works that examine gender); the people behind the SoG have been going to Wiscon regularly, which is how I heard of the award. Ooku (pretend there's a macron over the first "o") is an alternate history of Japan where a strange pox ends up killing three quarters of the men in the early 1600s. Because of that, the role of the shogun, like many other roles in Japanese society, ended up being matrilineal. The ooku was a harem formed for the shogun; with a female shogun, it was converted to hold about three thousand some men.

The story begins with Mizuno Yuunoshin's entrance into the ooku, but it also jumps back and forth in time to tell the story of how the role of the shogun ended up being female, along with how the disease affected Japanese history. When I first picked it up, I was afraid it wouldn't meet my expectations, as I've found Yoshinaga's work to be excellent but also uneven in terms of power differentials. I think Ooku is an excellent work of fiction so far; Yoshinaga carries off the broad scope and many time periods and characters with aplomb. As a work examining gender, I think it is awesome.

Why is this not licensed? Why why why?

At first, I was put off by the fact that we're following Mizuno's story. It's the same problem I have with Y: The Last Man; in a world where men are scarce, I still have to read something that's all about the guys? (I like Y and the women in Y, but it still irks me.) I was further put off by Mizuno taking on the more aggressive role with his childhood crush Onobu, as indicated by him kissing her and by the body language: he grabs her and pulls her in, she's slightly bent over backwards during the kiss, and he pushes her away to end it. I also wanted to know why all the women were still dressed in tightly wrapped kimono and obi when they were the ones running errands and doing business. While I love kimono, I think switching over to hakama might have been more practical! Similarly, the male dress in the first few pages is much less flowery than female dress; it looks like Edo in our history, with no hints of the changed male and female roles.

But! Yoshinaga is much, much better than that. Questions of clothing haven't entirely been resolved, but they've been brought up in the ooku already. And while we start with Mizuno, Yoshinaga does something very interesting: she switches between several POV characters, almost all male, and only has minor POV female characters. Yet the effect of this is to remind us how unstable the men's lives are; the shogun's favorites in the ooku may rise and fall, but the shogun and the women in power remain constant and dependable. There's a wonderfully claustrophobic feel to the ooku, a sense of limitation and constriction. I may have evilly cackled to myself and thought, "Bwahaha! See how it feels?"

Yoshinaga is also doing very interesting things with Japanese history; if I had known more about the Tokugawa shoguns, I would have picked up much earlier that she's following the exact same history as our own, only with female shoguns starting from Tokugawa Iemitsu. I particularly love that one of the greatest Tokugawa shoguns, Yoshimune, is a main character (and female). There's a wonderful scene in which Yoshimune meets with a Dutch captain: the pox hasn't spread to the rest of the world, and Yoshimune wants to know why only men are allowed on the Dutch merchant ships, which I read as a critique on how people will sometimes use feminism to justify nationalism or racism (I am not sure if it is, but whatever). And I particularly love what Yoshinaga's doing with Iemitsu, who began Japan's period of isolation, so disparaged by history books.

And there's so much more I'm not even touching on! The looks backward in history are even more fascinating, as they show a country struggling with changing gender roles. I would so suggest an Ooku book club panel for Wiscon, only given the lack of an English translation, I think it would be in vain.

To conclude on a completely random note, aside from being made of win, this manga also contains rodent death (traumatic only to me) and, more importantly, cat flinging as a form of affection.

(Please license this, someone!)

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 03:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com
Dude. This sounds awesome.

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 04:29 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] desdenova.livejournal.com
I am so jealous of you!

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] jiawen
Maybe there should be a panel called Things You Can Only Read in Japanese, So Far. Wiscon isn't the market, but who knows, it could start a critical mass.

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 04:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rilina.livejournal.com
I really think it's the release schedule that may be holding up licensing of this--given how much of Yoshinaga's other stuff has come over, you'd think this would have been snatched up already!

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 04:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] cynthia1960.livejournal.com
I've been reading about the Tokugawa shogunate, so I'm very intrigued by this alternate history. Need English translation, now!

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 05:20 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com
I love her art and I really liked Antique (the other stuff I've read by her has been eh, mostly PWP yaoi), so I'll have to be on the lookout for this. Who's the publisher?

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 05:30 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] larryhammer
Hakusensha (serialized in Melody).

---L.

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 05:32 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] larryhammer
Not only not licensed, but apparently no one's doing scanlations to English. Hmph.

---L.

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 07:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com
Oh wow. Wow.

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Tue, Jun. 24th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kinsugi.livejournal.com
This sounds wonderful! I want to read it, I want to read it... *despairs at dysfunctional Japanese in spite of >2 years study...*

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Wed, Jun. 25th, 2008 02:52 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] issen4.livejournal.com
Oh! You mean it's 大奥! It sounds interesting.

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Wed, Jun. 25th, 2008 06:15 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jinian.livejournal.com
Like everyone else, WANT.

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Wed, Jun. 25th, 2008 09:46 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] inga-b.livejournal.com
unfortunately my Japanese does not let me understand beyond general plot line, but still it does not stop me from squeeing every time they say "UESAMA NO!! ONA-----RI-------!! " :) I have all 3 published volumes and aside from a very special story, think it is just such a beautiful print and a b/w artbook of its own.

I also read somewhere on the web [but cannot provide the link for it], that sensei plans to release 1 volume a year and it will be a 10 years serialization. I look forward to it! Hopefully by the end of serialization my Japanese will be better **crosses fingers** :D

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Wed, Jun. 25th, 2008 12:41 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] octopedingenue
You know I am now plotting to lock you Misery-style in a cabin with this book, a dictionary, and a laptop with Photoshop.

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Thu, Jun. 26th, 2008 02:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] poilass.livejournal.com
This sounds awesome and I wants it! I wants it right now!

Especially since the first volume of Y only pissed me off. (One man left in the whole world, and he's *still* the most important person in it? The only explicitly feminist people are murderous cultists? The new government is completely incompetent and can't even, after three godddamn months *turn the lights on*? Fuck. Off.) I was too irritated to continue with it, but I've liked some of his other work. Does it get any better?

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Sat, Jun. 28th, 2008 04:29 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com
I read all the comments in hopes someone would pipe up with 'oh, it has been scanlated here!'

Woe.

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Mon, Aug. 17th, 2009 02:48 am (UTC)
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Amazon has it. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Ooku-Inner-Chambers-Fumi-Yoshinaga/dp/1421527472

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Thu, Dec. 3rd, 2009 06:35 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kinsugi.livejournal.com
I love Fumi Yoshinaga, and I've been looking forward to reading Ooku ever since I heard about it. I finally received my copy of the new VIZ Ooku Volume 1 in English. I was very excited at first; the book is physically beautiful and a pleasure to hold.

But then I started to read. I am terribly disappointed in the VIZ translation!! The publishers decided to use pseudo-Shakespearean English in some parts, perhaps where there is archaic Japanese.

I'm making a trip to the nearest Kinokuniya to get a Japanese version, and I've been searching desperately for a fan translation or scanlation to support my poor efforts to read the original. Do you know of any?

---SAMPLES
From the opening. Mom and dad, toiling in the rice paddy, are speaking to their little boy who is running off to play:
Dad: "Son, 'tis not for tots to wander far away alone!"
Mom: "Come home ere it gets dark, thou hearest?"
Dad: "Forsooth!..."

In a later scene, a well-dressed mother berates her son's lack of interest in an arranged marriage:
"What complaint canst thou have?... 'Tis not a question of how thou feelst!"

Jarring, out of place words like "prithee," "foppish," "hark!" "Sirrah," "thou knave!" and "Fie upon thee!" are everywhere.

Witness this witty dialogue between two samurai about haircuts:
A. "I wager his pate is near bald by nature, which fact he doth try to hide... do ye not all agree I have hit upon't?"
B. "Fie upon thee!!... Look at thee!! At thy age thou wearest the topknot of a callow youth, which in mine eyes is far more peculiar!"


A Shakespeare fan or SCA Japanophile might love this, and it could be fun played broadly on stage. I understand why the publishers might have thought it was a cute idea, but for me, Elizabethan English just doesn't work in the mouths of Edo peasants and warriors. It distracts the reader from being drawn into an ASIAN culture, an EDO that is quite faithful to the original, except for the reversals which allow the author to explore and spoof issues of gender and power. We pay attention to the clever Elizabethan language play, instead of the class and gender observations at the heart of the author's story.

Fie upon this translation; prithee, canst thou find another?

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