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Hi! I am lazy and depending on the goodwill of the internet to help with research!

So: tell me about Asian SF/F!

It must be:
  • Created in Asia by Asians

  • NOT from Japan

  • Any medium

  • Bonus points if I can get my hands on it (I am in the US and read/understand Mandarin Chinese)

  • Extra bonus points for SF/F from and/or about Southeast Asia or South Asia


I have a slightly better sense of SF/F created in Asia and popular in the US, though if you have notes for your specific country, that would also be good! Please note: NOT from Japan.

For self: [livejournal.com profile] rachelmanija's notes on Indian SF/F

ETA:
Korea:
- Pahanjip (Korean folklore + Tang China ghost hunters, manhwa)
- Bride of the Water God (Korean folklore (?) + alternate world + beast bridegroom, manhwa)

China:
- Swordsman II

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 07:55 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com
Well, if you're willing to count the Swordsman series as fantasy, I'd also suggest The Bride With White Hair (http://www.lovehkfilm.com/reviews/bride_with_white_hair.htm) -- you've got a girl raised by wolves, evil hill tribe cultists led by a megalomaniac pair of fraternal conjoined twins, and a magical transformation sparked by a broken promise. It's based on a 1950s wu xia novel, which I yearn hopelessly to see in English someday...

A lot of the classic Tsui Hark is fantasy, too -- Green Snake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Snake), another one based on a novel, has sister snake-spirits with great magical powers who shapeshift into human form. Zu (http://www.greencine.com/webCatalog?id=2980) has a common soldier getting sucked into a huge apocalyptic battle to save the world, with demons and sorceresses and huge magical battles. And the whole Chinese Ghost Story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Chinese_Ghost_Story) series is full of supernatural elements.

For that matter, with the fuzzy overlap between fantasy and horror, perhaps horror titles like Mr. Vampire (http://www.dighkmovies.com/v3/142/142a.html) could work here as well? They're typically full of revenants and ghosts and Taoist magic and all that fun stuff...

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 08:34 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
I had forgotten about the conjoined twins.

I second your other recs and add 2002 (human cop/ghost cop buddy movie; spirit money extrapolated into origami weapons burned on Earth become real weapons in the spirit realm, climaxing in a battle featuring an origami grenade launcher) and Wicked City (monsters among us, more buddy cop action, woman merges with pinball machine). (Hong Kong)

A lot of Hong Kong martial arts movies are borderline fantasy, ie, most of the action is not fantastical but then the villain shows up in a flying armored car like a giant trilobite (New Legend of Shaolin).

I usually avoid Asian horror movies because they are often terrifying (Mr. Vampire is more of a comedy and is fun and not scary) but this link might interest you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-Horror

I haven't seen any of these either, but from what I hear Thai horror movies are often about ghosts, demons, etc; a favorite demon is the Thai vampire, whose head detaches and flies about with its intestines trailing from its neck! http://www.thaiworldview.com/tv/tv4.php

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 08:46 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
I would totally never recommend the Bollywood fantasy Aabra Ka Daabra (http://telophase.livejournal.com/tag/wtf+bollywood%3F). Unless one had plenty of alcohol on hand. (Speaking of which, it could be an evening's entertainment pre-, during, or post-A-Kon.)

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 08:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com
Would Wicked City fulfill the requirements though? It's based on the Japanese novel by Hideyuki Kikuchi, who's better known for his Vampire Hunter D novels.

a favorite demon is the Thai vampire, whose head detaches and flies about with its intestines trailing from its neck!

Man, she gets around. That's our vampire (well, one of them) in the Philippines too. And she's been sighted in Malaysia too, IIRC.

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
You guys get the cool vampires!

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com
It's the jungles.

Our other vampire is the beautiful woman with the hollow tongue. No fangs for us, I guess.

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 09:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
The traditional American colonial vampire just takes the vitality from others until they die, unless the coffin's been dug up and the head removed (and sometimes burned). Apparently it sprung up as an explanation for TB epidemics.

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 09:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com
That makes sense. I have yet to really figure out where our vampire mythos stems from. To me, it just all seems to boil down to "Women are scary."

I need a disembodied head icon

Mon, May. 12th, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Wicked City: Hmm. It was produced in Hong Kong, though. Oyce can decide.

Flying head vampires: awesome!

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 09:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
If you have time, I would love to hear more about your vampires.

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Tue, May. 13th, 2008 04:55 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com
What would you like to know?

I would have to add the caveat that the Philippines consist of over 8,000 islands and I come from only one of them (Negros from the Visayas region), so the mythos & beliefs I grew up with don't necessarily coincide with the supposedly well-known majority. That said, my family's hometown is a fishing village in a relatively rural area so our local folk belief is a living, evolving thing.

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Tue, May. 13th, 2008 05:02 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Your explanation about the hollow-tongue woman was pretty darn cool. Is there a way to kill or repel her? Is she dead? Is she evil or just hungry?

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Tue, May. 13th, 2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com
Okay, so the catch-all monster term in the Philippines is aswang. This family of monsters consists of shapeshifters, black-magic witches & vampires. Because they all fall under that blanket term, the boundaries separating them tend to blur and certain characteristics will cross over depending on who you ask and where they're from.

That said, this is what I recall of this type of vampire.

This aswang's specific name is the tiyu-an. I'm not sure how she can be killed but I do know salt repels her. It burns her skin on contact. They're supposedly women who died in childbirth. Basically they return as vengeful creatures: kill men and cause women to miscarry (they like the blood of unborn children).

So really, I think the tiyu-an grew out of a need to explain miscarriages whereas the wakwak -- the vampire that segments and flies around -- is used to keep children inside at night. The wakwak love eating babies and children. It's a very pervasive belief. When I was little, my relatives did not want me sleeping next to the window at all. (At the time, windows had no glass in the provinces.)

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 09:03 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com
I thought the HK live-action Wicked City was based more on the earlier anime that was first based on the book? (Still just as potentially disqualifying, but that just adds another layer of influence...)

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Mon, May. 12th, 2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com
A lot of Hong Kong martial arts movies are borderline fantasy, ie, most of the action is not fantastical but then the villain shows up in a flying armored car like a giant trilobite

That must have come from the same magical-vehicle rental agency as the wooden ninja submarine in Swordsman III/The East Is Red!

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Tue, May. 13th, 2008 08:14 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com
Maggie Cheung AND Joey Wong, slithering all over the place and vamping it up! It's excellent, your typical lush insane pretty Tsui Hark fantasy.

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