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I am officially in love with this comic now. I liked it a whole lot before, but this one had me smiling and laughing and generally having a wonderful time.

Fables actually reminds me a bit of Sandman, except at this point, it's not quite as broad or as deep. They both have stories at the center, but while Sandman takes everyday life and makes it mythic, Fables takes the mythic and makes it everyday.

This collection is actually framed by two sort-of fairy tales -- the first one is a story of Jack in the Confederate South, and as Willingham puts it, "This story was freely adapted from a couple of the Mountain Jack Tales of American Folklore. In true oral tradition, it's been much altered under my care, which is a polite way of saying that I stole everything I thought I could use, changed a bunch of stuff to suit my whims, and made up the rest." The second is a story of what happens when Thumbelina is the only thumb-sized girl in a city of Lilliputians tale.

Then there's a two-parter, which leads to Storybook Love (actually only four issues). For Who Killed Rose Red? and Animal Farm, I liked the Fables characters, particularly Bigby (the Big Bad Wolf in human form) and Snow White, but now I've just fallen completely for them. Most of the characters are more caricature than character in the beginning books, funny sketches of what fairy tale characters would be like in the real world if they were immortal, but Willingham's started to really make them his own characters by the middle of the second book. There's an interesting mix of ruthlessness and goodness in them, and while the world is by no means warm and fuzzy, Willingham isn't nearly as bleak as Alan Moore can be. And I like how the threads of plot from the first two books tie in and the continuity in general. I'm a sucker for continuity and slow world-building, which is why I like long series and TV shows.

And Bigby and Snow are so cute! I particularly love Snow White and her practical, business-minded self, and Bigby is much in the tradition of Wolverine.

While the first two books of Fables were really good, to me, this one started really opening up the world for side things, like the new folktales, and I'm particularly looking forward to more stories from the Homeland. I really like how the structure of the Fables world supports this, which is what reminded me the most of Sandman. Hellboy's sort of got the same appeal in terms of short stories, but Hellboy's overriding arcs are pretty messy and the characterization isn't quite as neatly drawn.

Sigh. Now I really want to start buying the issues monthly, which is not at all practical.

Oh, also, there are rodent deaths in Storybook Love. Somehow I doubt anyone else on my FL is quite as squeamish about this as me (what with the pet mice and rats), but I sniffled.

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Wed, Jul. 7th, 2004 04:05 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com
Wow, those sound neat. Are they bound in book form yet? ((too lazy to go look))

Willingham isn't nearly as bleak as Alan Moore can be

d00d, I think Alan Moore would depress Poe.

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Wed, Jul. 7th, 2004 05:13 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com
Ooooooooooooh! ((adds to list)) (I don't have a prejudice against reading comics individually per se, I just ALWAYS lose an issue or tear them to shreds, or Max gets at them. So I prefer book form.)

I bought From Hell after seeing the movie and read it about in a day and a half. There should be a cautionary sticker warning against doing this.

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Wed, Jul. 7th, 2004 05:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com
Ah, hadn't thought of the cheapness aspect....also easier to store, oh yes. -- Man, if anything, the movie was less graphic than the comic, even given all the BRIGHT RED BLOOD, because it went into much more detail. I loved Watchmen, actually -- that was the second "grown-up" comic I ever read, right after Sandman (all of it belonging to the evil ex-fiance, who was actually something of a cartoonist and had a lot of cool graphic art, like Krazy Kat, besides the usual Calvin & Hobbes &c.). That was in what, 1990....ghod I'm old....

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Wed, Jul. 7th, 2004 05:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com
Awww. Yeah, Watchmen is pretty heavy-duty (Rorscharch is the one who really gets me every time, I guess). How did you find Sandman? Neil wrote amusingly one time that they were sexually transmitted, from comics guys to their girlfriends -- I do seem to remember Sandman busting open the floodgates for female comics readers, although I have like NO knowledge of comics history really and should so just shut up at this point.

Ya know, I remember watching the Dark Knight half-hour television shows and thinking some of them were pretty good, or the art was, at least....the one that was kinda edgy, and then it got yanked off and redone or something....one about the Gray Ghost was fairly cool, although that's really about all I remember of that series (except for one where they're stuck in some whack amusement park and Batman reprograms the Fickle Flying Finger of Fate, or something).

Wow! unable to remember my own zip code yesterday, yet the neurons were still holding onto all that. Brain keeps what Brain wants, apparently.

"Database temporarily unavailable" my fanny

Wed, Jul. 7th, 2004 07:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com
I remember looking on jealously in 9th grade while all the guys in the class traded graphic novels, and I finally asked one of them if I could borrow theirs (ended up reading Dark Phoenix Saga, Dark Knight Returns, Infinity Gauntlet, Death of Superman).

Aww, that's cute. Dark Phoenix is X-Men, right? I vaguely remember that animated series (OK, sometimes I still like cartoons on Saturday mornings). I remember Evil Willow got a "Dark Phoenix time" reference in the script....

The really funny thing is that my boyfriend has zero knowledge of comics, with the exception of Tintin. I nearly dropped dead with laughter the day I discovered he had no idea who Bruce Wayne was.

HEH. Tim's not that bad, butyeah, he really doesn't know comics either -- I think he was a little nonplussed once when I got a lot of Neil Gaiman books all at once. I think he was into comics when he was a kid, but it really didn't stick.

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Wed, Jul. 7th, 2004 07:58 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tiffanynichelle.livejournal.com
sigh, I love Bigby/Snow also. Esp when he told her how he can't block out her sent.

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Sat, Jul. 10th, 2004 07:35 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tiffanynichelle.livejournal.com
LOL, I swooned. I couldn't help it.

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Thu, Jul. 8th, 2004 02:48 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com
I don't know. I'm up to the same point with Fables as you are, but I thought that all the characters were so ruthless I was having a hrad time caring what happened to any of them.

Plus the fact that it strikes me as one of the rarish explicitly conservative-oriented fantasy universes - voluntary taxation, heavy "my old man got on his bike and looked for work" attitude, sneering at liberal attitudes to crime as denying personal repsonsibility. And the air of self-conscious moral brutalism that tends to come out of modern American conservatism. And the fact that the only left-wing character is a power-hungry, hypocritical villain into bestiality.

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Wed, Jul. 14th, 2004 08:40 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] angeyja.livejournal.com
I hate to come across like a sap but I had to table Quicksilver after the dog scene. I just wish they would come with some kind of warning label.

And this series? sounds really good. Thanks.

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