Angel 4x13 Salvage, Buffy 7x09 Never Leave Me script
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oyceterAngel 4x13 Salvage
Salvage was good, but not as good as I thought it would be. Pretty much anything without Wesley or Faith in it was kind of boring, probably because no one in the Fang Gang really has a personality anymore. Although I liked Gunn standing up to Faith. And Fred's defensiveness about the "skinny on her" (hee) from Wes. And can I just say Evil!Cordy is a big ho? Kissing the Beast was definitely on the icky side... couldn't help thinking how that'd feel under all the makeup and whatnot.
Angelus wasn't very scary in the this episode, I think mostly because he wasn't doing the psychological scary thing. Wes was very cool. I felt for him and Lilah. I wish Lilah weren't dead. I really wish Lilah could meet up with Faith again. That would be a really kickass scene. Loved Angelus calling up Sunnydale though! And Faith! I've never seen her in any of the season three or four episodes. Only on Five by Five and Sanctuary in Angel, so I wasn't sure if I'd like her or not. But I do. Oh so much. And her and Wesley... I'm almost embarrassed by the speed I'm transferring over to a Wes/Faith thing, even though Lilah's only now been dead. But seriously, all the Wes/Faith stuff was very cool. I love the testing of Faith's vampire slaying and the escape from prison. That's... pretty much all from me right now on this.
Buffy 7x09 Never Leave Me spoilers
SPIKE
Buffy, you have to kill me.
BUFFY
No, you don't understand. When I
left the room earlier, I heard you
talking to --
SPIKE
Do you have any idea what I'm capable
of?
She starts to understand what he's saying, grows somber.
BUFFY
(nodding)
I was in the cellar with you. I saw
what you did.
SPIKE
I'm not talking about the cellar.
The people in the cellar got off
easy. I'm talking about me.
(pause)
See, you don't know me. You only met
hamstrung-Angel-Spike. You only met
conditioned-chip-Spike.
(pause)
You never met the real me.
BUFFY
Believe me, I'm well aware what
you're capable of.
SPIKE
You got off easy, too.
(pause)
Do you know how much blood you can
drink from a girl before she'll die?
I do.
(pause)
See, the trick is, if you drink just
enough... if you damage them just
enough... you can keep them alive for
weeks.
(pause)
You can make yourself a plaything.
Spike steps forward until the chains are taut.
SPIKE (cont'd)
I used to set up shop in their
houses... I used to be so good at
it -- I knew how to damage them just
enough so that they could still cry
when I...
(pause)
Because it wasn't worth it if they
couldn't cry.
BUFFY
Something is playing with you, Spike.
This isn't your fault. You're not
doing this.
SPIKE
I already did it. It's already done.
(pause)
Do you know what I used to do to
girls Dawn's age?
He rattles her.
SPIKE (cont'd)
This is me, Buffy You have to kill
me before I get out.
BUFFY
(softly)
We can keep you locked up. Give us
time and we can --
SPIKE
Have you ever stopped to think about
why you can't kill me?
(pause)
After everything I've done? To you.
To the people around you.
(pause)
Have you ever wondered why you keep
me alive?
(pause)
It's not love, we both know that.
BUFFY
You fought by my side. You've saved
lives, helped --
SPIKE
Don't. Don't do that. Don't
rationalize this into some noble act.
(pause)
You don't get to do that.
He paces back and forth (as much as he can in the chains.) He falls in and out of shadow.
SPIKE (cont'd)
We both know the truth, you and I.
He falls into full shadow.
SPIKE (cont'd)
You like bad men.
He begins to pace again.
SPIKE (cont'd)
I don't mean troubled men. I don't
mean brooding men.
(pause)
I mean, you like men who hurt you.
BUFFY
No...
SPIKE
You need the pain we cause you. You
need the violence inside. You need
the hate.
(pause)
It gives you the strength to do what
you have to do. To be the Slayer.
(pause)
But it's killing you.
BUFFY
You don't have any idea what you're
talking about.
SPIKE
You have to let it go.
Spike RAGES at his chains.
SPIKE (cont'd)
You have to kill me.
(pause)
I am destroying everything around
you. I am killing off every piece of
you that is good and pure.
(pause)
And in the end, after everything is
gone and you have nothing else... I
will come for you and I will --
BUFFY
I don't hate myself, Spike. Not
anymore.
(pause)
You think you have insight now
because your soul's drenched in
blood? You don't know me.
She begins to pace.
BUFFY (cont'd)
You don't even know you. Was that
you who killed those people in the
cellar? Was that you who waited for
those girls? Was that you who tried
to rape me?
SPIKE
There's no one else --
BUFFY
You're not alive because of pain.
You're not alive because of hate.
You're alive because I saw you
change. I see your penance.
SPIKE
Window dressing.
Buffy gets close enough to him so that when he strains as hard as he can against his chains (as he will when he says his next lines) he's only inches away from being able to touch her.
BUFFY
There's a man in there underneath
that monster. A man who -- even when
he had no soul --
SPIKE
-- It's window dressing --
BUFFY
-- struggled to find redemption.
You're alive because I know he's in
there --
SPIKE
-- I'm killing you --
BUFFY
-- and I believe in the man he can be.
Buffy's words take Spike by surprise. He falls back, his chains go slack. We see it play out on his face, a brief flicker of hope, and then the lights go out and --
BOOM!
I love this... it was from the shooting script of Never Leave Me and got to my little Spuffy heart so badly. I really wish they had filmed this instead of the truncated version they did, because this one makes it so much clearer just how much Spike hates himself and just how much of that is due to Buffy whaling on him in season six. He echoes her thoughts from Dead Things, how there's nothing good in him, that, like she said in As You Were, he's killing her and killing everything good and pure about her because of what he is. And at this point, he doesn't believe Buffy could ever love him because he's completely internalized every single thing she had been telling him over and over and over, how's he's worthless and beneath her and just a killer.
But then Buffy, instead of being good righteous Buffy in the filmed version, attesting to her own strength and belief in herself, in this version, Buffy knows he's saying what he is because of her. Because of their incredibly fucked up relationship last year. And she tells him that not only does she believe in him, that there's a man in there, a man who EVEN WHEN HE HAD NO SOUL tried to find redemption. Nyaha. Although I don't mind souled Spike now that he's got his stones back, I was definitely of the thought that he could have been a good man even without his soul. And here, Buffy sees this too! Ahem. Anyway. This sounded almost like all the great Spuffy fanfic out there to me, and I just desperately wanted to see this on screen.
Salvage was good, but not as good as I thought it would be. Pretty much anything without Wesley or Faith in it was kind of boring, probably because no one in the Fang Gang really has a personality anymore. Although I liked Gunn standing up to Faith. And Fred's defensiveness about the "skinny on her" (hee) from Wes. And can I just say Evil!Cordy is a big ho? Kissing the Beast was definitely on the icky side... couldn't help thinking how that'd feel under all the makeup and whatnot.
Angelus wasn't very scary in the this episode, I think mostly because he wasn't doing the psychological scary thing. Wes was very cool. I felt for him and Lilah. I wish Lilah weren't dead. I really wish Lilah could meet up with Faith again. That would be a really kickass scene. Loved Angelus calling up Sunnydale though! And Faith! I've never seen her in any of the season three or four episodes. Only on Five by Five and Sanctuary in Angel, so I wasn't sure if I'd like her or not. But I do. Oh so much. And her and Wesley... I'm almost embarrassed by the speed I'm transferring over to a Wes/Faith thing, even though Lilah's only now been dead. But seriously, all the Wes/Faith stuff was very cool. I love the testing of Faith's vampire slaying and the escape from prison. That's... pretty much all from me right now on this.
Buffy 7x09 Never Leave Me spoilers
SPIKE
Buffy, you have to kill me.
BUFFY
No, you don't understand. When I
left the room earlier, I heard you
talking to --
SPIKE
Do you have any idea what I'm capable
of?
She starts to understand what he's saying, grows somber.
BUFFY
(nodding)
I was in the cellar with you. I saw
what you did.
SPIKE
I'm not talking about the cellar.
The people in the cellar got off
easy. I'm talking about me.
(pause)
See, you don't know me. You only met
hamstrung-Angel-Spike. You only met
conditioned-chip-Spike.
(pause)
You never met the real me.
BUFFY
Believe me, I'm well aware what
you're capable of.
SPIKE
You got off easy, too.
(pause)
Do you know how much blood you can
drink from a girl before she'll die?
I do.
(pause)
See, the trick is, if you drink just
enough... if you damage them just
enough... you can keep them alive for
weeks.
(pause)
You can make yourself a plaything.
Spike steps forward until the chains are taut.
SPIKE (cont'd)
I used to set up shop in their
houses... I used to be so good at
it -- I knew how to damage them just
enough so that they could still cry
when I...
(pause)
Because it wasn't worth it if they
couldn't cry.
BUFFY
Something is playing with you, Spike.
This isn't your fault. You're not
doing this.
SPIKE
I already did it. It's already done.
(pause)
Do you know what I used to do to
girls Dawn's age?
He rattles her.
SPIKE (cont'd)
This is me, Buffy You have to kill
me before I get out.
BUFFY
(softly)
We can keep you locked up. Give us
time and we can --
SPIKE
Have you ever stopped to think about
why you can't kill me?
(pause)
After everything I've done? To you.
To the people around you.
(pause)
Have you ever wondered why you keep
me alive?
(pause)
It's not love, we both know that.
BUFFY
You fought by my side. You've saved
lives, helped --
SPIKE
Don't. Don't do that. Don't
rationalize this into some noble act.
(pause)
You don't get to do that.
He paces back and forth (as much as he can in the chains.) He falls in and out of shadow.
SPIKE (cont'd)
We both know the truth, you and I.
He falls into full shadow.
SPIKE (cont'd)
You like bad men.
He begins to pace again.
SPIKE (cont'd)
I don't mean troubled men. I don't
mean brooding men.
(pause)
I mean, you like men who hurt you.
BUFFY
No...
SPIKE
You need the pain we cause you. You
need the violence inside. You need
the hate.
(pause)
It gives you the strength to do what
you have to do. To be the Slayer.
(pause)
But it's killing you.
BUFFY
You don't have any idea what you're
talking about.
SPIKE
You have to let it go.
Spike RAGES at his chains.
SPIKE (cont'd)
You have to kill me.
(pause)
I am destroying everything around
you. I am killing off every piece of
you that is good and pure.
(pause)
And in the end, after everything is
gone and you have nothing else... I
will come for you and I will --
BUFFY
I don't hate myself, Spike. Not
anymore.
(pause)
You think you have insight now
because your soul's drenched in
blood? You don't know me.
She begins to pace.
BUFFY (cont'd)
You don't even know you. Was that
you who killed those people in the
cellar? Was that you who waited for
those girls? Was that you who tried
to rape me?
SPIKE
There's no one else --
BUFFY
You're not alive because of pain.
You're not alive because of hate.
You're alive because I saw you
change. I see your penance.
SPIKE
Window dressing.
Buffy gets close enough to him so that when he strains as hard as he can against his chains (as he will when he says his next lines) he's only inches away from being able to touch her.
BUFFY
There's a man in there underneath
that monster. A man who -- even when
he had no soul --
SPIKE
-- It's window dressing --
BUFFY
-- struggled to find redemption.
You're alive because I know he's in
there --
SPIKE
-- I'm killing you --
BUFFY
-- and I believe in the man he can be.
Buffy's words take Spike by surprise. He falls back, his chains go slack. We see it play out on his face, a brief flicker of hope, and then the lights go out and --
BOOM!
I love this... it was from the shooting script of Never Leave Me and got to my little Spuffy heart so badly. I really wish they had filmed this instead of the truncated version they did, because this one makes it so much clearer just how much Spike hates himself and just how much of that is due to Buffy whaling on him in season six. He echoes her thoughts from Dead Things, how there's nothing good in him, that, like she said in As You Were, he's killing her and killing everything good and pure about her because of what he is. And at this point, he doesn't believe Buffy could ever love him because he's completely internalized every single thing she had been telling him over and over and over, how's he's worthless and beneath her and just a killer.
But then Buffy, instead of being good righteous Buffy in the filmed version, attesting to her own strength and belief in herself, in this version, Buffy knows he's saying what he is because of her. Because of their incredibly fucked up relationship last year. And she tells him that not only does she believe in him, that there's a man in there, a man who EVEN WHEN HE HAD NO SOUL tried to find redemption. Nyaha. Although I don't mind souled Spike now that he's got his stones back, I was definitely of the thought that he could have been a good man even without his soul. And here, Buffy sees this too! Ahem. Anyway. This sounded almost like all the great Spuffy fanfic out there to me, and I just desperately wanted to see this on screen.
