Veronica Mars 3x02 My Big Fat Greek Rush Week

[oyceter]

3x02 My Big Fat Greek Rush Week

Ahhhh! The entire Keith subplot makes much more sense as I remember that S2 ended with Kendall opening a briefcase. I must have missed it on the previouslies last week.

And the first arc gets kicked off! Veronica and Mac's guilt, even if partial, with regard to Parker's rape was painful, particularly considering the two girls' not-so-great sexual histories. I also wanted to kick Lamb in the nuts for the "false alarm" comment. And I wanted to kill Parker's mother for telling her daughter she was immature and not ready to leave home. Yes, personal issues speaking here...

Veronica in the sorority wasn't quite that fun, though I suspect this isn't the last we're going to see of the sorority, despite their apparent innocence. Did the question of why the security camera was in the den mother's room ever come up?

And to join to list of people I wanted to hit is driver girl. Yes, I get the antipathy, but to just go blame the girls really pisses me off. Thankfully, I bet the show will somehow address this later.

I like it when I trust a show enough to pick up threads or to not make stupid misogynistic or racist statements!

It also looks like the show is going to start using "frak" so they can swear! I was very amused by the introduction and definition of the word last week.

The entire Logan-Wallace subplot completely bored me, given that I have learned about Zimbardo's Stanford prison experiment and Milgram's various experiments several times in psych class. I felt like it was sort of cheating to have only one guard character be nasty (Gah! The anti-Semitism! Gack!) as a way make characters we liked less complicit. Also, I totally don't get how it ties in with everything else, unless it was supposed to be some commentary on the sorority group mindset?

And very abused prisoner kid is much, much forgiving than I would be. Maybe this will have more things to do with a mystery further down the line.

Poor Keith, always being disbelieved by sheriffs! And oh, I loved his scene with Veronica so much! I'm also looking forward to more Fitzpatricks and the plot continuing to thicken.

Still no Weevil, woe.

Comments

[oyceter]

Yeah, I would have done the same thing Veronica did. Though I loved the part where she was trying really hard to say that she thought the razor buzzing was a vibrator without actually saying so to Lamb.

Yeah, I can the Zimbardo Experiment attempting to go for those themes, but I don't think it worked out too well. Either that, or I was totally distracted by the fact that the experiment probably wouldn't be allowed by the school at all, given the actual Zimbardo experiment and deletrious effects thereof.

[coffeeandink.livejournal.com]

I was expecting the professor to reveal in his speech that they all flunked because the other guards were complicit in allowing the "bad" guard's abuse. Maybe next week?

[oyceter]

Me too, or something. I was especially irritated that Horshak ended up taking notes for mean prison guard and brushed the whole thing off as a joke.

Hopefully there will be follow through...

[yhlee.livejournal.com]

Oh, is that what Veronica was trying to get across? I was wondering why she was being so equivocal.

I was also highly distracted by the fact that the school would not allow the experiment; I can't remember specifics, but at one point in college I remember coming across how everything of that nature had to be signed off by an ethics panel or committee or whatever. Frankly, if any student had turned the professor in to the administration, he would be completely busted.

[oyceter]

I know, I kept thinking: Zimbardo and Milgram are precisely why psych experiments have such rigorous specifications and why there are ethics panels and etc.

Ugh.

[rachelmanija.livejournal.com]

This is total fanwank, but: now that there is such a big push for torture to become legal in the US, I could actually easily see the beginning of a slippery slope in which experimenters get lax with the guidelines, and when the inevitable lawsuit occurs, it is dismissed on the ground that if torture is legal under certain circumstances (when a person is accused by the goverment of being a terrorist or assisting terrorists), "mild" torture is also legal in experiments as long as participants are warned in advance and have the right to walk off the experiment.

I did like that Wallace extracted correct information by trickery when the anti-Semitic guy got wrong information by force, as a major point that the anti-torture people have been hitting is that torture tends to make people say anything-- but not necessarily the truth. Whereas non-torture interrogation, performed by skilled operators, is pretty good at getting the truth. Unlike the "slippery slope" theory, I'm pretty sure the "torture does not even work" theory is a point the VM writers were making deliberately.