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In theory, I love 1 and 2. But in practice, it's hard to find the books that I actually like. The intrigue is what I loved about Dunnett's books. I thought Swordspoint_ was a rather interesting combination of 1 and 2. I loved the first third of Kushiel's Dart for the intrigue, but then the book stopped working for me.

And, yeah, romance doesn't really manage these subgenres well.

I also loved Sorcery and Cecilia and Freedom and Necessity, but I rather thought it was despite their formats. Maybe I'm wrong.

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