Game of Thrones 3x08-3x10
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oyceterSpoilers for the series AND all the books
Well, the relentless narrative drive that primarily got me through seasons 1 and 2 is mostly gone, so unless CB really wants to watch, I don't know how much more I'll be watching. This is also where I started losing interest in the books as well.
I am mostly bored by the action up north, largely because it is one of the more epic-fantasy-esque part of the series. That, and Jon and Bran don't interest me. I am warming up to Sam now that they are back at Castle Black (roadtrip narratives also usually don't interest me). I also hadn't realized that the "I am yours and you are mine" that Ygritte kept saying are from the Westeros wedding vows, or possibly some shared culture with the Wildlings, since she holds by it? Who knows?
I read in the ASOIAF wiki that she dies, and I'm very much hoping that the scene with her shooting arrows into Jon replaces that, because it's not like the series needs even more dead women. CB's main commentary was yelling, "Jon Snow, you are the world's worst boyfriend!" at the screen. And of course he and Bran just narrowly miss each other.
I love how the entire series is basically "Let's have the Starks narrowly miss each other!" with a large helping of "And let's make every bad thing ever happen to the Starks!"
And with that, the Red Wedding! I was not as traumatized as I had feared? Largely because I'd already read all the episode reactions when it aired. Well, that, and I closed my eyes through a great deal of the violence. I thought the way they wrote it and filmed it was very good, and Michelle Fairley indeed does a wonderful job. I also liked the touch of showing the day after, with the Frey servants having to clean up the hall as Walder Frey gloats. CB was pretty traumatized, as he has not read the books.
Also, Roose Bolton and Stannis Baratheon look exactly alike.
And poor Arya! I didn't realize they actually filmed the thing with the wolf's head on Robb's body; that was the part that nauseated me when I first read it in the books, and it's still awful. And now, Arya has commited her first deliberate hands-on murder...
I liked the Tyrion-Sansa scenes a lot, and THANK YOU whoever decided to not film Sansa part naked. THANK YOU. Also, thank you for the reminder that she is FOURTEEN. Given how the show is about female sexuality and nudity, I was really not sure what they were planning on. Also, Shae, take Varys' money and get out while you can! And yay for her fierce defense of Sansa.
Tywin disciplining Joffrey is never not hilarious. Also, I love his top at the wedding. How come everyone else wears various kinds of sofa upholstery while Tywin gets black leather and the like? ... because he's Tywin Lannister, I suppose.
Thank you writers for no more Theon torture. I guess with Theon and Gendry, the show has probably upped its male nudity as vulnerability quotient by 3000%, but I find that I am still not particularly fond of sexual violence or issues of consent. Also, I am guessing the Gendry-Melisande thing doesn't happen in the books, since in comments to a previous entry,shewhohashope said that it's starring a 13-year-old kid. I suppose they had to have more gratuitous Melisande sexuality and nudity, with the bonus of threats to the penis! It seems to be a theme this season...
In that vein, I was so annoyed when they had Dany getting out of the bathtub as well. I do like that she does it and gets a robe in front of what's-his-name and doesn't look threatened at all, but given all the rape jokes the second son guy was going on about earlier, not really in the best of taste. And are they going for a Dany-what's-his-name romance?
And then there are the billion grateful slaves hoisting Dany on their shoulders and calling her Mother! Her storyline has been rife with What These People Need Is a Honky throughout, but I think this has been the most egregious example to date. Sigh.
Oh Davos. I never really warmed up to you in the books, probably because I was reading as a high school student and not very into the non-nobility. I really love him in the show, though, particularly his scenes with Gendry and with Stannis' daughter. (CB was protesting Davos being about to sound out "enough" while stumbling on "night.")
And Jaime and Cersei are reunited! I think this might be the first actual reunion in the show? Aside from Ned and Cat reuniting in King's Landing way back in S1. I even awww-ed a bit, despite obviously not rooting for them as a couple.
Yay Yara! I do not actually remember Asha and the Kingsmoot stuff from the books, though I wish they had some of that, because it sounded interesting, but I am glad she gets to be active. Aside from that, it feels like all the Theon scenes from this season were put in to a) keep the actor on board and b) provide gross torture porn.
Please feel free to liberally discuss spoilers in the comments! As you have all probably noticed, I am not particularly attached to this series and am enjoying learning about stuff via fannish osmosis.
Well, the relentless narrative drive that primarily got me through seasons 1 and 2 is mostly gone, so unless CB really wants to watch, I don't know how much more I'll be watching. This is also where I started losing interest in the books as well.
I am mostly bored by the action up north, largely because it is one of the more epic-fantasy-esque part of the series. That, and Jon and Bran don't interest me. I am warming up to Sam now that they are back at Castle Black (roadtrip narratives also usually don't interest me). I also hadn't realized that the "I am yours and you are mine" that Ygritte kept saying are from the Westeros wedding vows, or possibly some shared culture with the Wildlings, since she holds by it? Who knows?
I read in the ASOIAF wiki that she dies, and I'm very much hoping that the scene with her shooting arrows into Jon replaces that, because it's not like the series needs even more dead women. CB's main commentary was yelling, "Jon Snow, you are the world's worst boyfriend!" at the screen. And of course he and Bran just narrowly miss each other.
I love how the entire series is basically "Let's have the Starks narrowly miss each other!" with a large helping of "And let's make every bad thing ever happen to the Starks!"
And with that, the Red Wedding! I was not as traumatized as I had feared? Largely because I'd already read all the episode reactions when it aired. Well, that, and I closed my eyes through a great deal of the violence. I thought the way they wrote it and filmed it was very good, and Michelle Fairley indeed does a wonderful job. I also liked the touch of showing the day after, with the Frey servants having to clean up the hall as Walder Frey gloats. CB was pretty traumatized, as he has not read the books.
Also, Roose Bolton and Stannis Baratheon look exactly alike.
And poor Arya! I didn't realize they actually filmed the thing with the wolf's head on Robb's body; that was the part that nauseated me when I first read it in the books, and it's still awful. And now, Arya has commited her first deliberate hands-on murder...
I liked the Tyrion-Sansa scenes a lot, and THANK YOU whoever decided to not film Sansa part naked. THANK YOU. Also, thank you for the reminder that she is FOURTEEN. Given how the show is about female sexuality and nudity, I was really not sure what they were planning on. Also, Shae, take Varys' money and get out while you can! And yay for her fierce defense of Sansa.
Tywin disciplining Joffrey is never not hilarious. Also, I love his top at the wedding. How come everyone else wears various kinds of sofa upholstery while Tywin gets black leather and the like? ... because he's Tywin Lannister, I suppose.
Thank you writers for no more Theon torture. I guess with Theon and Gendry, the show has probably upped its male nudity as vulnerability quotient by 3000%, but I find that I am still not particularly fond of sexual violence or issues of consent. Also, I am guessing the Gendry-Melisande thing doesn't happen in the books, since in comments to a previous entry,
shewhohashope said that it's starring a 13-year-old kid. I suppose they had to have more gratuitous Melisande sexuality and nudity, with the bonus of threats to the penis! It seems to be a theme this season...In that vein, I was so annoyed when they had Dany getting out of the bathtub as well. I do like that she does it and gets a robe in front of what's-his-name and doesn't look threatened at all, but given all the rape jokes the second son guy was going on about earlier, not really in the best of taste. And are they going for a Dany-what's-his-name romance?
And then there are the billion grateful slaves hoisting Dany on their shoulders and calling her Mother! Her storyline has been rife with What These People Need Is a Honky throughout, but I think this has been the most egregious example to date. Sigh.
Oh Davos. I never really warmed up to you in the books, probably because I was reading as a high school student and not very into the non-nobility. I really love him in the show, though, particularly his scenes with Gendry and with Stannis' daughter. (CB was protesting Davos being about to sound out "enough" while stumbling on "night.")
And Jaime and Cersei are reunited! I think this might be the first actual reunion in the show? Aside from Ned and Cat reuniting in King's Landing way back in S1. I even awww-ed a bit, despite obviously not rooting for them as a couple.
Yay Yara! I do not actually remember Asha and the Kingsmoot stuff from the books, though I wish they had some of that, because it sounded interesting, but I am glad she gets to be active. Aside from that, it feels like all the Theon scenes from this season were put in to a) keep the actor on board and b) provide gross torture porn.
Please feel free to liberally discuss spoilers in the comments! As you have all probably noticed, I am not particularly attached to this series and am enjoying learning about stuff via fannish osmosis.
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Mon, Jul. 1st, 2013 10:18 pm (UTC)Ah, I didn't remember all that re: Jaime and Cersei and Joffrey's death! I do actually like that S3 is starting to deviate from the books more, even though I don't always like what they end up doing (cutting down Cat's role, frex).
And very yes to all the Threats to the Penis versus rape threats.