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Mon, Dec. 15th, 2003 11:35 pm
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The boy and I have now rewatched the first half of TTT:EE. Then we got tired and decided it was probably best to stop watching so both of us would be awake tomorrow. The boy is really cute when he snuggles on the couch, because he's six foot some and not very flexible. I think it's really funny watching him try to curl up into a little ball, tee hee.

RotK spec (with spoilers for the end of the book... has anyone here not read the book?):

Not much, but I swear, Peter Jackson is going to turn the ending into something in which Smeagol wrests control from Gollum and bites off Frodo's finger not because he wants the ring, but because it'll be his final stab at redemption, at a chance to right the wrongs he's committed. I think this because 1) it's ten times more gut wrenching to have it be noble sacrifice instead of greedy accident and 2) look at what they're doing with Gollum's character! It would be such a waste to have it culminate in a greedy snatch for the ring.

I think mostly I view PJ's movies as a giant bit of fanfic, with tons of money and gorgeous visuals. He's doing what we do -- taking the sometimes sparsely realized characters of Tolkien's world and trying to work out motivations and emotions in his head, then adding a little here and there to make it make sense. I think he was extremely successful with rewriting/revisioning Faramir's character. I loved Faramir in the books, still do, but this Faramir is interesting to me in and of himself in a way that he never was in the books. This one has issues and trauma and compassion -- I love his little speech about the fallen soldier in TTT, esp. since there is always a little part of my brain slightly disturbed by the black and white good/evil split in Tolkien. Not quite as fond of Eowyn in the extended scenes. She feels a little too girlish to me when I feel she should be brittle, at the breaking point. But then, there are scenes like Theodred's funeral and her sword practice. Mmmm.

Yay!! RotK tomorrow!!

And we are having dinner with some business school people who are still here and apparently going to a bar later where they have weekly trivia games! How cool is that? (I'm a total dork ^_^)

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Tue, Dec. 16th, 2003 01:26 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] angeyja.livejournal.com
I think mostly I view PJ's movies as a giant bit of fanfic, with tons of money and gorgeous visuals.

*nods*I have a similar outlook. I was reminded of some of the morphing of old tales; like all the Arthurian fantasies, or modern retellings of fairy tales..

Good call;

Tue, Dec. 16th, 2003 06:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] anneth.livejournal.com
I suspect the same, re. Gollum.

And, yay! RotK tomorrow!

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Tue, Dec. 16th, 2003 11:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dherblay.livejournal.com
I swear, Peter Jackson is going to turn the ending into something in which Smeagol wrests control from Gollum and bites off Frodo's finger not because he wants the ring, but because it'll be his final stab at redemption, at a chance to right the wrongs he's committed. I think this because 1) it's ten times more gut wrenching to have it be noble sacrifice instead of greedy accident and 2) look at what they're doing with Gollum's character! It would be such a waste to have it culminate in a greedy snatch for the ring.
On Saturday, I took my mother to see the expanded edition of The Two Towers. Afterward, she wondered if she'd be able to find sermon material (this is what she does now after movies) in Gollum's redemption. I told her, skeptically, to wait for the third movie -- I do not know the books well, but I know they do not end with what I'd call "redemption." But considering the other ways the movies differ from the books (and, in the case of the fallen soldier, improve on them), I think you're right.

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Wed, Dec. 17th, 2003 10:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dherblay.livejournal.com
Reply tomorrow. I should be back by 11 am your time.

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Wed, Dec. 17th, 2003 02:09 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] katie-m.livejournal.com
apparently going to a bar later where they have weekly trivia games! How cool is that? (I'm a total dork ^_^)

Dude, I do that every Wednesday with a bunch of friends. Which... does not necessarily make it more dorky, but it *is* fun.

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