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I liked this much better than all the other Sayers I've read, possibly because it's so different from all the others. It didn't hit the "OMG SQUEE" button in me, but I love it in a more quiet way. It's a surprisingly quiet book, and an extremely satisfying read.

I'm usually not that big on stories set at an academic institution and focus on the academics, possibly because I'm jealous, or really, who knows. But I really loved how big a role Oxford played in Gaudy Night and how much the book was about the intellectual versus the emotional, the different choices you can make with your life.

Harriet ends up celebrating a reunion in Shrewsbury, the all-female college at Oxford (made up by Sayers), and gets caught up in a round of increasingly malevolent pranks intended to publically embarrass the college. Despite this being touted as the big Harriet/Peter book, there is relatively little Harriet/Peter interaction. In fact, most of the book is on Harriet, on her attempts to figure out what is most important to her, where her values lie, and what she'll end up doing about them. Peter is, of course, a large part of these decisions, but I really appreciate that Harriet's attempts to decide if Peter will fit in her life are only part of the decision. He's affected by her choices, but he's not necessarily the sole driving factor of them.

This is probably a stupid thing to say, but GN is a remarkably feminist book. Obviously, I do realize that feminism existed back in the 1930s, but the commentary on women's career choices and how said choices affect husbands and children and what society thinks of women who don't go for motherhood are sadly contemporary. Yes, progress has been made, but on the other hand, recent articles on how feminism has ruined the nuclear family would fit right in Harriet's world and Harriet's dilemma.

And, oh, I liked Harriet before because she is stubborn and grumpy and not bowled over by Peter's charm, but I adore her now. I had a problem with Have His Carcase because of the imbalance in Peter and Harriet's relationship. It wasn't just that Harriet was resentful of how much she owed Peter, it was that she thought he was so far above her in terms of class, charm, intelligence, and everything. I still wish there were more in Peter's point of view as to why he fell for Harriet so quickly (maybe I need to reread Strong Poison), but I like that Peter loves her for her integrity and honesty.

One of my favorite scenes in the book isn't the final one on the bridge (though that's a good one). Rather, it's the one in which Peter directs the discussion of the various dons and scholars to that of professional integrity, and how they would choose if they had to sacrifice the personal or the professional. I especially like that the question isn't phrased in a way to make it a choice between a family life and a career; instead, the professional realm consists of one's values and one's notion of integrity. And I love that Harriet can't put the personal over what she thinks is right, and that that is why Peter trusts her so much. It actually reminds me a great deal of Freedom & Necessity (that probably should be the other way around, given the publication dates), in which James says that he couldn't love Susan if she put him over her own beliefs.

I had a problem with the mysteries in other Sayers, mostly because I could honestly care less who killed whom and for what reason. Thankfully, there's a wonderful thematic resonance in this one; the culprit literally attacks the world of Shrewsbury and the female, non-nuclear-family space there. And while I had problems with Peter always being the one to solve the mystery in prior books, his solving the mystery here works because it is too close to Harriet and she can't conceive of someone making the choices that the culprit does.

Hrm. It looks like I have actually descended into incoherent squee ;). But oh, I loved the layers in this book, I loved all the things it talked about and had to say, I loved watching Harriet grow and choose, and I loved watching a romance between two people who needed an equal relationship and would fight for one.

Links:
- [livejournal.com profile] sophia_helix's review

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Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 08:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com
People keep urging me to read this book, and you remind me I will probably love it!

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Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com
I think people have told me I should start with GN, too -- hell, I just might do it anyway, since that's everyone's favorite apparently.

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Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] oracne.livejournal.com
If you only read one Sayers, this is the one to choose.

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Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 09:02 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
I think my favorite part is when they go boating, and Peter falls asleep, and there's that wonderful intimacy of watching someone sleep that I find so touching. (Also happens in Fruits Basket, to similar effect.)

I also love the bit very early on where they're having dinner together, and Peter keeps making the waiter pick up Harriet's napkin.

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Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 09:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Don't bother bringing measuring cups. We have everything.

Also, don't watch Samurai Champloo just yet, as I am bringing the first disc (sent to me due to a Netflixing error) and my Dad is interested in checking it out. Probably Friday night after dinner (probably at Mariposa's lone good restaurant.)

Also, it is cold out there and may rain. Bring warm clothing and an umbrella.

Finally, my parents do not know about my main LJ. They know about my auxiliary ([livejournal.com profile] rachelmbrown) one, and other forms of online activity like usenet and Dueling Modems. So they know how we met, but if you happen to mention specific posts of mine and they ask because they didn't see them, just say they were on a different board.

Re: PS; OT

Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 09:21 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] kate_nepveu
Oyceter, I did mail your DVD of _Samurai Champloo_ episodes, but today.

Re: PS; OT

Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 09:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Oh, you don't need to bring a gift when we're going to bake them scones-- they'll love that. (And no doubt find it hilarious that I'm being so domestic.)

But if you are determined, they would no doubt prefer a book to anything decorative-- they seem to decorate exclusively in very expensive antiques. They are currently obsessed with "A Song of Ice and Fire," and were previously obsessed with Robin Hobb.

Re: PS; OT

Wed, Mar. 29th, 2006 05:49 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
You could bring lemon curd, and then we could spread it on the scones.

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Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 09:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] anneth.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you liked GN - it's my favorite book of all time, for all the reasons you mentioned above.

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Wed, Mar. 29th, 2006 12:55 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maeve-rigan.livejournal.com
Sayers was amazingly 21st century as a "feminist." Look for her booklet of two speeches on work, sex, gender, titled Are Women Human?

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Tue, Mar. 28th, 2006 10:32 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rilina.livejournal.com
This is a book I liked the first time around, and loved upon re-reading. I don't know if that's a function of the rereading or a function of my being older. Or both.

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Wed, Mar. 29th, 2006 12:56 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maeve-rigan.livejournal.com
If your experience with GN is anything like mine, then re-reading GN will definitely improve it. I've read it several times...as good or better every time.

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Wed, Mar. 29th, 2006 04:16 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] minnow1212.livejournal.com
I read GN first and loved it. Chess set!

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Wed, Mar. 29th, 2006 06:55 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com
"Shrewsbury College" was heavily based on Somerville College, which Sayers attended. According to repute, some of the dons were not happy about this.

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Sun, Jan. 21st, 2007 05:12 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] littlebutfierce
I just read this book this weekend after reading your review. I really enjoyed it (my first Sayers!), so thank you! And yes, the issues about women & work/family are still so sadly applicable (I like to think that the classist bits are gone from academia, but I know there are still vestiges of them, alas).

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