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Oyceter ([personal profile] oyceter) wrote2007-11-06 12:35 pm

Gundam Wing, ep. 16-20

I have successfully addicted [livejournal.com profile] rachelmanija to Gundam Wing!

GWing was my very first anime ever, and clearly it hooked me for life. I have hesitated to pimp it before because most of my memories of liking it are tied up with the insane emo angstasticness and the multiple attempts at self-destruction. But I find it's holding up well for rewatching!

It probably helps that the plot is so insane and convoluted that it feels like I'm watching for the first time. I keep yelling, "OMG! I forgot about that!"

Rachel's incredibly amusing entries are here. Spoil her, and I will sic an insane and self-destructive Heero on you.

Brief summary: There are five insane pilots of Gundams, superpowered mecha. The Gundams are the bestest and fastest and coolest because this is based off a shounen series. They go around and blow things up.

There's also the Alliance, which rules Earth and the colonies. The colonies want independence. I think. That is what the narrator says in episode 1 at least. In this series, it's a little hard to tell.

There are many coups and rebellions and factions and attempts at coups and explosions and switching of sides. Most of the time, I have no idea what is going on politically, and I have not only seen this series 3 times or so, I have also spent four years of my life attempting to figure out all the factions and politics (possibly this says something about me, but let's not go there!).

I love it to pieces and it gives me great cracktastic joy to rewatch!



Rachel and I watched this disc together over the phone: "Wait! I paused. Did you pause?"

"No! Where are you?"

"Um. So this giant block of ice fell and there's a Gundam on the left side of the screen."

"Ok, I got there!"

"Should I play?"

"Wait, you were still paused?"

"Where are you now?"

I am not quite sure what happened in the past five episodes. My attempt at a somewhat coherent plot summary:

Zechs decides he wants to duel Heero. In Antarctica. We do not ask why.

Noin, who has long ago succumbed to Zechs' insanity field (it's like the Absolute Terror Fields in EVA!), decides to ship (as in transport! Get your minds out of the gutter ^_~) Trowa and Heero over, along with Trowa's Gundam. Heero's left arm is still woefully hurt, but Zechs has repaired Wing for him. For reasons unbeknownst to us, Heero decides not to go with his familiar Gundam and takes Trowa's instead. Rachel attributes this to the desire to share Trowa's Gundam more. I think it is because Zechs took out Heero's self-destruction button and Heero is just that insane.

Much dueling occurs! Zechs pontificates a lot about honor and having no pride. Rachel and I both agree that if he had no pride, he wouldn't have handicapped his Gundam. We both decide that Trowa is so touched by Heero's self-destruction attempts that he's actually rigged his Gundam for Heero, the ultimate gesture of love (up there with getting people to tie your shoelaces for you. Oh wait, different series).

Rachel says, "Hey, Relena hasn't shown up for a while! Maybe she'll try to stop the duel by running between two Gundams 100 times taller than her!"

I snorfle.

On cue, Relena flies into the scene in her private jet (or something). She then opens the door, stands there between two battling Gundams, and tells Heero to stop battling because she has a letter for him.

"What the fuck?" goes Rachel.

"Bwahahaha!" I reply.

Anyway. Noin reveals Zechs' Sekrit Identity to Relena, who is urging Heero to kill Zechs. Zechs flies off ("Run away! Run away!"), though everyone thinks this is very noble of him. Possibly they have all been influenced by his insanity field.

On the other side of the world, Quatre and Duo randomly rappel down a huge cliff! Apparently they're in Singapore! Quatre says they should blow stuff up, as it will convince the other pilots to follow them back into outer space. Rachel and I boggle. The plan works. Rachel and I boggle more. We both forget why Quatre wants everyone back in space.

Wufei randomly shows up and goes with them.

Quatre attempts to self-destruct ("3 of the 5!") and he talks woefully to his Gundam ("Insane!" Rachel says). His Gundam, on its own accord, opens the door to tell Quatre to get out. Quatre thanks his Gundam and gets out ("Um. The Gundams are alive?" Rachel concludes).

And now, if I recap more plot, this entry will be twenty pages long. So instead I will recount my favorite moments!

Lady Une has multiple personalities! She ends up hiring Trowa as a Gundam pilot for their newer, better Gundams, resulting in a very surreal scene in which she looks over Trowa's resume as a pilot and then proceeds to have a mental breakdown. I think it is a job interview from hell.

Later on, we get a voiceover on the horrors of war. "Why can't the voiceovers tell us anything helpful?" Rachel asks. "See, if they had just said OZ had overthrown the Alliance and was mopping up the remainder, that would have been useful!" We then discover that the voiceover is actually Heero, delivering the most inappropriate greeting speech ever to his new classmates! His teacher quickly stops him, probably afraid that he will terrify the class.

Duo has to go around with a bandaid on his nose. Then he gets slashily rescued by Heero, who has gone in to get the captured Duo... to KILL HIM! "What's your escape plan?" Duo sensibly asks Heero. "I didn't have one," Heero replies. "Because he meant to blow himself up!" Rachel and I yell.

Zechs' bird helmet breaks, and he is randomly surrounded by sparkly bits. He also gets to wear the red t-shirt! Alas, he goes back into uniform, but thankfully doesn't don the bird helmet again. Also, he and Treize have either threatened to kill each other, terminated their friendship, attempted to usurp each other, or all of the above. We know this because Treize proclaims he can no longer be Zechs friend while standing on a mobile suit, cape flapping dramatically in the breeze.

Oh! Treize also turns on the Romefeller Foundation, which is a secret organization within OZ, which was a secret organization within the Alliance but is now ruling the world. At least, I think he does. He shoots at them with a mobile suit, then he stops shooting. I'm not quite sure why (for both actions).

Wufei is amazingly not frothingly insane or frothingly misogynistic. Good for him!

Sally Po gets to blow stuff up, and she helps out Quatre's guys steal back his Gundam. Yay for cool women!

Also, Lady Une captures the mad scientists! I have no idea what's going on in any of their scenes because I was too busy laughing at the fake nose! Though I did manage to remember that they build two newer, betterer Gundams (Vayeate and Mercur-something. Too bad it's not Mercutio!). But it turns out that Heero's hijacked one of them, only to be staved off by a circus flipping Trowa!

I think that's where we end, though it's really hard to say, as I have already forgotten most of the plot.

My favorite moments:

Trowa is forced to destroy Duo's Gundam in order to prove his loyalty to OZ. He puts down his gun, apparently signalling that he can't do it -- only to ask for a beam canon instead! Duo is very sad to see his Gundam being blown up, and both of us are very sad for him and his Gundam as well, since clearly the Gundams are capable of a) talking to their pilots, b) feeling for their pilots, and c) preventing their pilots from blowing themselves up. Maybe c) is why all the self-destruction buttons have such a high fail rate. Anyway! Trowa sits in his cockpit and randomly sparkles. Given that Zechs has randomly sparkled before, neither of us are surprised by this.

Until Trowa notices the sparkles. "What are these?" he asks.

"He has gone totally insane!" Rachel says. "Is he seeing his own sparkles?!"

"Are these... tears?" Trowa says unemotionally yet emo-tastically.

"Trowa is very strange," Rachel concludes.

"Yes. Yes, he is." I say.

Second favorite moment: Mobile dolls are shooting at bombs. "Why are they fighting again?" Rachel asks, only to remember two seconds later that it's a training sequence.

"It's entirely understandable, given all the random explosions," I reassure her.

My last favorite moment is when the old Leos and the new Taurus mobile dolls are shooting at each other, and how sad is it that I can still identify which mobile suits are which and on whose side EIGHT YEARS after first seeing the series?!

"Why are they fighting again?" we both ask (this will be a frequent occurence through the series).

Two seconds later, random soldiers on the screen pause and ask, "Why are we fighting again?"

Gundam Wing: the series so insane that even its characters can't keep track of what's going on!

Please put any spoilers beyond ep. 20 in <span style="color:#333,background:#333">spoiler text</span>, as I've seen the entire thing, but Rachel hasn't.

[identity profile] keelieinblack.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
GWing was my very first anime ever

Gosh, me too! Back in the days of fansubs-on-tape, which meant there was almost always a delay of several weeks between batches of episodes. The panicking over some of those cliffhangers was awful.

These recaps of yours and Rachel's are great--I was much too young and fangirlish at the time to really appreciate the insane plotting and politics.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to go to a doctor's appt now, but just want to say that I am sitting in a cafe, one of their public computers next to other users, weeping with laughter. I think the other users think I am a crazy Gundam pilot person.

[identity profile] fmanalyst.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't stop laughing either, which is a good thing because I'm having a shitty week and a bad thing because I have a sore throat. Gundam Wing was my second anime, and I didn't realize at the time just how cracktastic it was.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Also love that after a great deal of build-up, Heero's injured arm has absolutely no effect on the plot other than giving him many opportunities to wince dramatically, and Trowa many opportunities to express concern and affection.

[identity profile] slithytove.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You're familiar with the Laws of Anime (http://www.abcb.com/laws/index.htm)?

I refer you to Law 16, Third Corollary:

"Whenever a 'Good Guy' is actually hit by enemy fire, it is in a designated 'Good Guy Area', usually a flesh wound in the shoulder or arm, which restricts the 'Good Guy' from doing anything more strenuous than driving, firing weaponry, using melee weapons, operating heavy machinery, or doing complex martial arts maneuvres."

The Laws of Anime long antedate Gundam Wing, and some of them are no longer true. I haven't seen a bad guy radiate beams of light just before exploding in *years*. But some, such as Law 16, may last forever.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
You! Stop making me laugh so loudly in a cafe that everyone turns to stare at the crazy woman!

Re: beams of light just before exploding: You must not having been watching Heroes last year.
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I just want to take a moment to thank both of you, because I have been sick and miserable for the last few days and reading these reviews have been some of the high points of the week. Now I don't know if I want to rush out and rent a bunch of GW, or if the crack of the show itself can't possibly live up to the lolarity of the reviews. :)

I live to serve

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
It is astounding how much the actual show surpasses the reviews! For example, in this disc alone, both Oyce and I forgot to mention a Zero-G Bok Choy of D00M.

If you try it, I recommend at least sticking it out till episode 3, because I think that's the one where Heero unbuckles his parachute so he can fall to his death.

All the same, it's probably best enjoyed in the company of someone to snark to.

PS. Are you the same smillaraaq who BookMooched "Chevalier d'Eon" from me? If so, enjoy the palms/psalms/palmss!
ext_12512: Hinoe from Natsume Yuujinchou, elegant and smirky (Mary Kay Dalek)

Re: I live to serve

[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
VEGETABLES of DOOM! Oh dear oh dear. And I have nobody to share the snark with except my little dog, too, and she's already convinced I'm quite insane.

(And yes, guilty as charged! After seeing all the talk of the PALMSS of DOOM RANDOM SPELLING, I couldn't resist a sample of the good crack. Thanks so much, I'll be diving into that as soon as I finish some recently Mooched Gravitation, which I think is on a meth-and-sugar high instead of crack.)

Your icon! I love it!

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
...I'm not sure "Chevalier" is the good crack, but it's certainly crack.

Hey, even if you just snark at your little dog too during the show, you can snark later with us all via episode recaps!
ext_12512: Hinoe from Natsume Yuujinchou, elegant and smirky (Saiyuki Gaiden: history repeating)

Re: Your icon! I love it!

[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, thank you! That came from a rather deranged late-night conversation with a friend, who demanded that it be iconed afterwards. I live to serve!

And in the spirit of GW snark, I present what is probably my favorite thing ever posted in Fandom Wank: in the midst of wankage about an insanely long multi-chaptered Utena fic, there is this delightful flight of fancy (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/978391.html?thread=124229079#t124229079) spawned by passing mention of a similarly insane GW mpreg fic.

"Oh, c'mon! That fic featured cheering sperm!"

Re: I live to serve

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! That's the one I haven't read!

And no way, nothing tops heads randomly falling off.

PS. I think we need an "I forgot the giant flying walrus/floating bok choy/giant robot chicken/heads falling off" icon set.
ext_12512: Hinoe from Natsume Yuujinchou, elegant and smirky (STS Suki come-hither)

[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
Now I'm laughing madly AND hungry!

(Although I suppose it's better than reading that while eating -- spraying bits of half-chewed bok choy of DOOM! would doubtlessly be bad for the screen...)
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[personal profile] jiawen 2007-11-07 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
How hard is the science in the show, if I can ask? People have occasionally told me I should get into Gundam, and specifically Gundam Wing, if I like hard SF, but they told me the same thing about Gunbuster, and I couldn't handle it.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Bwa-ha-ha!

I'm not sure that any mecha show is big on the hard science. You might enjoy Planetes, but that's not really mecha.
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[personal profile] weirdquark 2007-11-07 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, a lot of Gundam is really good with the science, if you first accept the premise that they decided it was a good idea to have giant humanoid robots.

Gundam Seed, for example, has pink explosions in their space battles. Which I thought was twerpy at first, but then I found out that the writers had figured out what sort of fuel things would use (something that actually exists but can't be mass produced yet) and this fuel really would explode pink in a vacuum. Therefore pink space explosions = scientifically accurate. Who'da thunk it?
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[personal profile] jiawen 2007-11-08 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That's kinda what I'd heard: if you accept the conceit that mecha are useful and usable, then the rest kinda makes sense. Still, it's good to get a second opinion!