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Oyceter ([personal profile] oyceter) wrote2005-07-21 02:34 am

HP 6

Oh my god, she really killed Dumbledore. I mean, I thought it was going to happen, but... wow. And Snape. I don't know what to think. I still don't think he's turned traitor to the Order, I can't say why, but just that it wouldn't make storytelling sense. The secret of the Half-Blood Prince, the intimations of what he knows, of why Dumbledore was so sure, all that is still not said, and gaaaaaaaaah why is book 7 not out yet?!?!

And gah, Ginny. I like Ginny. Why does Harry do the Peter Parker thing? It's not like Ginny can't fight alongside Hermione and Ron! And oh, Harry has grown up, and he's so good. I mean, he was a bit of a prat in book 5 and often very annoying in the previous books, but he is really honestly good through and through and he is so solid and tries to do the right thing, and gah, it kills me. I'm not much for heroics -- all the fancy stuff that he did for the previous books didn't mean that much to me, but in this one, when Dumbledore talks to him about the irrelevancy of the prophecy, that kills me. And I love how Harry understands that even though Voldemort has forced it so that it will either be him or Voldemort, he still does have a choice. He isn't the Chosen One, he does the choosing (much like Buffy), and I adore that.

I think this is why I dislike prophecies in fantasy books -- they take that element of choice away from the hero, and that choice, that's what I think really makes the hero. And Harry does choose, and he chooses to keep fighting, to keep doing what's right. And he's often misguided and waylaid and the like, but he really does try, and that's what I love the most.

I still can't believe Dumbledore is dead.

I still can't believe Snape killed him. I'm sitting here making up giant fantasies that Dumbledore had commanded Snape to kill him somehow once he knew of Draco's plan and probably the Unbreakable Vow, that he was asking the same of Snape that he asked of Harry back at the lake, only to a larger degree. And I'm sitting and fanwanking and saying that Snape was so very angry at Harry in the duel because he didn't want to hurt Harry. Wargh. Am confused. Want to read book 7.

Dude. That was really good.

ETA: strangely, despite desperately wanting to spill about the book, I started reading some fandom posts and realized I didn't want to be involved in the fandom. For some reason, I have no real desire to read about things that go in the margins of the book (ok, except my strange weakness for Hermione/Snape, and who knows where that came from), and, well, I just don't want to be caught up in the endless speculation and fannish squee and whatnot for some reason. I dunno. I mean, I want to talk about it, but I want to talk about it as a book, like I would discuss other books with people, and not use it as a springboard to canon and fanon and fic and fic portrayals and stuff. I just want to talk about Rowling and what she did and why and etc.

[identity profile] livinglaurel.livejournal.com 2005-07-21 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sitting here making up giant fantasies that Dumbledore had commanded Snape to kill him somehow once he knew of Draco's plan and probably the Unbreakable Vow

Most of my flist seems to think the same thing, so it might not be so giant a fantasy.

[identity profile] loligo.livejournal.com 2005-07-21 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Dumbledore had commanded Snape to kill him somehow once he knew of Draco's plan and probably the Unbreakable Vow, that he was asking the same of Snape that he asked of Harry back at the lake, only to a larger degree. And I'm sitting and fanwanking and saying that Snape was so very angry at Harry in the duel because he didn't want to hurt Harry.

If it's a fantasy, we're ALL going to Fantasyland together. I think there's good reason to believe it -- Snape being good simply makes a better story than Snape being evil, even for readers who aren't madly in love with Snape. (Severus! I have faith in you!)

[identity profile] rilina.livejournal.com 2005-07-21 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sitting here making up giant fantasies that Dumbledore had commanded Snape to kill him somehow once he knew of Draco's plan and probably the Unbreakable Vow, that he was asking the same of Snape that he asked of Harry back at the lake, only to a larger degree.

Er, so am I, and most of the HP fans (some of whom are still involved in that fandom) on my flist. :)

What I find amusing that there are many current and former HP fic writers on my flist, and many of them have said, "Well, that killed any desire I had to ever write fic again."

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2005-07-21 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
There are many of us who think Snape was ordered by D. to finish him off--esp. after he was dying by inches after drinking that poison. And he froze Harry so he couldn't helpfully interfere.

[identity profile] sophia-helix.livejournal.com 2005-07-21 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
The only problem with the "Snape and Dumbledore were in on it together" theory is that she kind of bagged it (or at least, indicated it wasn't exactly correct) at the AWESOME interview that's over at Mugglenet.com

However, she also bags on the CRAZY-ASS Harry/Hermione shippers who are tearing her to shreds for not making their pairing canon, so it's an awesome interview. *g*
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[identity profile] cychi.livejournal.com 2005-07-21 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a lot I liked about this book. I totally agree with Oyceter about the 'choosing of your own path thingy.' I think the thing I liked best was how the mystery of the half-blood prince ended. I don't think she could have choosen a better character for it to be. Which is to say I didn't guess the right answer at all, though it makes a lot of sense. I also liked how Harry's failure to learn occulency(sp) came back and bit him in the ass. It seemed so fitting. I think he was a better person in this book as well. I really couldn't stand him in the other ones. I think the only major thing about this one I didn't like was were how she wrote the romances. I don't particularly mind who they all fell for, but I don't really feel convinced that they did anything that made would make someone gravitate towards them. Haha, perhaps I am giving away my own personal lack of understanding of the issue ;P

This is definitely my favorite so far, if not for the good writing, then because I did not end up spending time being annoyed at Harry Potter.

[identity profile] sienamystic.livejournal.com 2005-07-21 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
In an entirely non-HP digression, the perfume oil arrived today and I love it and want to marry it and have its babies. Thank you so very much!
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[personal profile] seraphcelene 2005-07-22 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
All I could think of when I read the end was, "Damn. Oyceter called it. Damn."

[identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be up for discussions of HBP as a book, without any of the madness and speculation. I'm planning to start rereading it this weekend as there are things I want to check, as well of bits of plot I missed while concentrating on the technical details, and vice versa.

Gina

PS I saw and enjoyed your Romance Novel Hero post, but not until it seemed a little late to add anything to the discussion.

[identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
Shall look forward to your review. I may post more thoughts on my LJ yet too.

Gina