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Oyceter ([personal profile] oyceter) wrote2013-01-04 02:50 pm
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Elementary 1x08-1x10

Elementary 1x08 The Long Fuse

As with many Elementary episodes, I really like the character stuff and don't remember very much about the episode plot. I was hoping that Sherlock's new sponsor would be a regular, but possibly he isn't? I love that Sherlock picked Alfredo partly just to make Joan feel uncomfortable, and I really love that Joan does feel uncomfortable but then interviews him and changes her mind.

[personal profile] crossedwires has good things to say about anti-black prejudice in the episode and how the show deals with it; I too wish they had done it more with Sherlock the white guy than with Joan, but it was refreshing to see it even being dealt with.

Also, HEE to luring Sherlock in by inviting him to crack a lock.

I wasn't particularly fond of the murderous escort-turned-CEO plot, particularly her hitting on Sherlock, but I will say the depiction of the start-up web company was spot on.

Elementary 1x09 You Do It to Yourself

I love that Bell got to contribute a bit to the case, rather than Sherlock solving everything all the time.

Re: the Chinatown aspect. Hrm. It's... not as bad as it could have been? Which is damning with faint praise, but I have also learned to take what I can get from TV. And yet. The more episodes like this, the more the Asian woman + white man formula starts to feel formulaic and a bit gross. The show does do well with Joan, but this is partly why I wish Alfredo had been showing up more. She is still a bit in Sherlock's shadow, given the whole "Sherlock Holmes" bit of the franchise.

I also got nidgy when Sherlock began explaining all these Chinese symbolisms to Bell because well... it's a mix? Some people believe stuff and some people don't and some people kind of believe but figure they should do something lucky just in case and some people are white East Asian profs who seem to be doing this as a lifestyle choice. Which... meh. Also, I was very meh about the plot with his wife and the abuse and her immigration status and just... it would have been much better had she had more initiative or been something other than the victim. The scene with white male Sherlock interrogating her about sexual abuse was particularly difficult.

I loved the entire subplot regarding Joan and Liam, and that last scene with Sherlock joining her to wait for Liam was excellent.

Elementary 1x10 The Leviathan

We meet Joan's family! I think I am holding back on opinions until seeing more of them, though it was nice to see her brother. I'm not entirely sure I agree with [personal profile] crossedwires' critique in this case, but I think more context from the show would be helpful. Mary reads to me as a very Westernized 1.5 gen mom or something. My vague impression was that Joan's father (stepfather?) is white? Mostly I'm hoping that they keep Joan's family in as an ongoing thread, as even though Mary has expressed some approval over Joan's current job, I suspect it's not something that's resolved quite that easily.

On a case level, it was so nice having something that wasn't a murder! Or, well, that at first wasn't a murder! I like this version of Elementary MUCH better, partly because I love heists and capers, and partly because watching dead people every episode gets a bit grim. Or: reasons why I normally don't watch procedurals.
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[personal profile] quarter_to_five 2013-01-05 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes, goodness, but then the show would have to not be first and foremost about the white guy? I mean, we can't have that, right?

(To be perfectly honest, I am not usually all that sensitive to issues of representation, but Elementary is trying so hard and yet falling so far, and the combination means that it's my main prism of looking at it now. I didn't like what they did with Alfredo, in that vein, actually - it was still all about a white guy's reaction to and making use of racism and the only function it had was to tell us things about Sherlock. Of course, if everyone else in the show was also a straight white dude, they would still only all be around to tell us things about Sherlock, and I wouldn't like that show either, but I wouldn't also be annoyed at what it was doing with its fig leaves.)
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[personal profile] quarter_to_five 2013-01-05 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, Lucy Liu is really the redeeming thing about this show, but I just increasingly can't stand Sherlock. It's probably even a bit unfair, because he's not that intrinsically awful, it's just the the show demands that I care about him oh-so-much, so I almost deliberately don't. (I'm always like that about special-person shows though. I found myself bucking against, say, Luther as well. I'm trying to think of a show that put a woman in that position and coming up short though. (Buffy doesn't count. (...she insisted) She's the main character, but she's not the narrative focus the way Sherlock is in Elementary. Buffy is about Buffy saving the world. Elementary is about whether poor little Sherlock will ever get over his daddy issues.))
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[personal profile] crossedwires 2013-01-06 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think "The Closer" and "In Plain Sight" fit the bill of a procedural show centering on a (white) woman, who is brilliant at her job and not the easiest person to be around (and unfortunately the shows tend to be white-gaze-y/problematic in a lot of the same ways as shows that centre on a white man). A show starring a WOC like this, though? I'm drawing a blank.