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Weirdly enough, Ichabod's claim that they used to call it the destruction of the tea seems to be true according to Wiki. The writers for this show actually look stuff up on the internet?! (Normally I would not count this as research, but since this is the show with George Washington's magical bible...)

Ichabod talking to the OnStar lady was excellent. Speaking of which, are we going to see Katrina again? I'm pretty sure Jenny has had more screen time than her, and Jenny's not even in the credits (please add her to the credits).

Jenny! Jenny having military training in Mexico and South America because all who follow in the shoes of Sarah Connor do! Jenny and Abbie and their standoff, with Ichabod finally interceding because he would appreciate it if the two didn't end up shooting each other. Normally this would annoy me, but Ichabod is remarkably non-annoying. And I laughed so much at all the secret symbols and the sextant/projector. Oh George Washington.

I also rolled my eyes at the evil Hessians, because really? Especially Flashback!Hessian, who had oiled hair with side curls and a pointy mustache. An actual pointy mustached villain! Oh show...

I appreciate Captain Irving's moments of competence, and his going through the crime scene to rule out the Headless Horseman as a perpetrator reminded me a lot of how Gregson and Bell actually get to detect stuff in Elementary. Yay Captain Irving! Please don't be evil.

And yet, despite the ridiculousness of evil Hessians, random mystical books that open doorways to hell, and bad CG demons, the characters are really good. I loved Abbie at Jenny's former foster home, especially how she watched out for the woman's current foster child (also black, which is unsurprising given the disproportionate number of POC in the foster system and probably telling of the foster mother). And promising to tell family services on them. I also love Ichabod's body language in that scene, where he just angles his body toward Abbie as a protective measure while not interfering with her doing her thing. See, white guy heroes? You can be protective without being overbearing asshats! (*cough*WARD*cough*)

But mostly... Mills sisters! The revelation that Corbin had been mentoring Jenny as well! The way they talk about having played by the church as kids, or sharing memories of their mom making them remember Bible verses. The way Abbie kind of rises to the bait when Jenny asks her if she believes in the supernatural now, and the way she casually introduces Ichabod as her time-traveling friend and fellow apocalypse stopper. I also love Ichabod kind of awkwardly stuck in the middle, especially during the car ride with Jenny talking about her work and having to act on what you believe in, and Ichabod clearly empathizing. You guys can go off and start revolutions in Sleepy Hollow; it'll be fun, I'm sure.

I've seen people mentioning that Abbie really wasn't the only one at fault, and I do think that's the case. But given how Jenny is dragged out of the questioning room screaming, I can totally see why Abbie feels completely guilty and needs to apologize. As with the previous episode, I like how she owns up to it without flinching. You can totally see how she got into law enforcement; she holds herself to the same high standards she measures others with. I also love the continuing moments of tension even after the apology, especially Jenny's jealousy of Abbie being chosen as a Witness. Have interesting interactions over that and Sheriff Corbin! Also talk more about your mom and your dad!

Someone on my dwircle was scared that they were just building up the Jenny-Abbie thing to kill of Jenny for more Abbie angst, and now I am totally paranoid. Come on, writers! The Mills sisters are a gold mine of emotional conflicts and family bonds and exposition (what other things has Jenny retrieved?).

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Fri, Oct. 11th, 2013 04:57 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] meganbmoore
I can't help but think that Ichabod is wrong, and it's Abbie and Jenny who are the witnesses, and he's their perky and witty sidekick who doubles as a walking talking encyclopedia of relevant knowledge. Sadly, it'll never happen.

I seem to have had the opposite reaction as everyone else to the revelation that Corbin also mentored Jenny (and kept it secret from Abbie) because I kept going "But he could have helped repair their relationship years ago!"

Based on what Abbie said about their parents, I figure chances are good that we'll see both of them eventually, and that their father probably didn't run off so much as he was either taken or forced to leave for supernatural reasons. And that one or both were/are witches.

I'm hoping that Lyndie Greenwood isn't a regular yet because of Nikita and contract issues, and that she'll be a regular soon.

Ichabod is surprisingly lovable. I went in expecting him too be a character I tolerate and then he ended up being one I adore.

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Fri, Oct. 11th, 2013 08:06 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Lt. Abbie Mills from Sleepy Hollow (Abbie Mills)
Posted by [personal profile] lilacsigil
Yes, I thought the same thing about the witnesses! And that they're maybe holding off on Jenny in the show (with the "get you out within 6 months" thing) until Nikita is done.

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Fri, Oct. 11th, 2013 08:07 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Lt. Abbie Mills from Sleepy Hollow (Abbie Mills)
Posted by [personal profile] lilacsigil
I loved this episode, mostly for the Abbie & Jenny shenanigans. And I loved that Jenny's entire body expressed "I told you so" from the time they met up in the cabin but she managed not to actually say it. Sheriff Corbin hedging his bets (one Mills sister inside the law, one outside it) was kind of cruel, I think, but a solid plan nonetheless.

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Fri, Oct. 11th, 2013 09:25 am (UTC)
lea_hazel: A frowning white theater mask (Feel: Sad Face :()
Posted by [personal profile] lea_hazel
I'm seeing Corbin as the asshole mentor who lets them go through awful things to toughen them up. Basically their whole life has been training for the apocalypse.

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Sat, Oct. 19th, 2013 05:47 am (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
Kind of like Sam and Dean Winchester's father on "Supernatural," except that, unlike Winchester senior, the sheriff was apparently backhandedly perpetuating their sibling rivalry and estrangement for undisclosed reasons of his own. (John Winchester was hardly father of the year, but his treating Sam like some sort of naive shirker for wanting to have a normal life rather than carry on the family tradition of hunting demons, etc., seems to have been more of an irrational gut reaction, as opposed to Corbin's prolonged parallel mentorships of Abbie and Jenny without making any significant attempt to mend the rift between them, or even telling Abbie that he'd been working with her sister--and his apparently allowing Jenny to assume that Abbie did know at least something about his continued connection with Jenny but was still treating her sister like some sort of mentally unstable minor criminal in spite of this.)


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Fri, Oct. 11th, 2013 09:36 am (UTC)
randomling: Audrey Parker and Nathan Wuornos (Haven) pointing guns at a threat. (audrey and nathan)
Posted by [personal profile] randomling
I love Abbie and Jenny so very much.

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Sat, Oct. 12th, 2013 06:24 am (UTC)
willow: Red haired, dark skinned, lollipop girl (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] willow
I want Abbie & Jenny to end up GW's descendents due to a 'stroll through the slave quarters'.

It likely won't happen on show - I'll have to find fic. BUT, if they were yt - it'd totally be 'continuing his legacy in the fight' and no one would blink twice.

I also think they're the witnesses, cause Ichabod's raising was 'blood mingling' - accident! And he's the spanner in the works who aids the witnesses. He's extra.

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Mon, Oct. 14th, 2013 06:51 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] ladyjax
One thing, I do get Abbie feeling guilty and at the same time, I appreciate her saving herself when she was a teen even if it meant leaving Jenny behind.

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Tue, Oct. 15th, 2013 02:34 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] dustdaughter
Family dynamics are fueled by guilt. But to your point, I think Abbie ran down the game plan before their interrogation and I wish Jenny would have backed her play. IIt would have bought them a little more time to be kids in a decent foster home. It's easier for Jenny to blame it all on Abbie than to consider her sister's POV.


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